AMA回錄 | Ocean海洋協議V3即將釋出，老牌專案如何在風口乘風

ama全稱為ask meanything，本次活動持續了1個小時，前40分鐘，社羣管理者準備了一些社羣參與者們常見的問題，來對bruce進行提問，後面20分鐘，社羣進行自由問答，參與直播的社羣使用者可以直接提出自己的問題，bruce選擇其中的一些問題進行回答。

本次的嘉賓bruce pon是oceanprotocol海洋協議的創始人，他畢業於麻省理工學院，擁有豐富的區塊鏈和資料庫經驗，同時也是是bigchaindb的創始人兼ceo，bigchaindb是一家區塊鏈資料公司，主要合作伙伴有微軟、polkadot、mongodb、toyota等知名公司。他曾共同建立了文塔倫國際諮詢公司，為無銀行賬戶的人服務。12年裡在全球建立了18家銀行和金融服務公司。曾在戴姆勒金融服務公司(mercedesbenz)和埃森哲公司工作過。同時也是ascribe gmbh的創始人兼ceo。

在這裡，我先對ocean protocol海洋協議做一個介紹：ocean protocal於2017年推出，是基於區塊鏈的去中心化資料交換協議，用於為人工智慧解鎖資料價值。透過區塊鏈技術、智慧合約和ocean通證，允許資料提供者透過去中心化的資料市場與資料消費者進行互動，同時保證所有參與者的控制、可審計性、透明度和合規性，為使用者提供公平的結果。

以下為ama實錄問題的整理：

q1：

主持人：bruce你好，歡迎來到中文社羣。儘管我們前面已經做過介紹，但我們還是希望你再次為我們用一句話介紹一下ocean protocol專案。作為一個搭建在以太坊上的資料交換協議，它最終的願景是什麼？能給我們的世界帶來什麼樣的改變？

hello, bruce. welcome to the chinesecommunity. although we have already introduced it before, we still hope you canintroduce ocean protocol in one sentence. as a data exchange protocol built onethereum, what is its ultimate vision? what changes can it bring to our world?

bruce pon：

oceanprotocol allows people to buy and share data securely while preserving privacy.

our goal is to be the protocol thatsupports the global data economy.

we envision a world where data is an assetthat is accessible to everyone. individuals can share their data transparently,and receive compensation. companies and researchers can connect to build aitools, driven by data.

海洋協議可以在保護使用者隱私的情況下允許使用者購買和分享資料。同時我們的目標是成為支援全球資料經濟的協議我們設想了一個世界，在這個世界中資料是每個人都可以訪問的資產。每個人可以透明地共享其資料，並獲得相對應的獎勵。同時公司和研究人員可以連線以構建由資料驅動的ai

q2:

主持人：大家都知道，ocean protocol從2017年釋出至今已經4年，4年期間，達成了很多新的里程碑。最近ocean即將釋出v3，能否為大家簡單地介紹一下，v3會實現哪些和以前不一樣的目標呢？

as we all know, it has been four yearssince the ocean protocol was released in 2017. during the four years, many newmilestones have been reached. ocean is about to release v3 recently. can yougive us a brief introduction of the different goals v3 will achieve?

bruce pon：

oceanprotocol has a long history in the blockchain space. we have been active since2013. at that time, vitalik buterin worked for a short time on our projectbefore he wrote the ethereum whitepaper. from then until now, we have learnt alot and we have always focused on helping to build a data economy.

海洋協議在區塊鏈行業有著比較久的歷史。我們從2013年開始就一直活躍在這個領域。vitalik buterin在撰寫以太坊白皮書之前就曾為我們的專案工作了一段時間。直到現在，我們不僅僅學到了很多東西並且一直專注於建立資料經濟。

ocean v3 will provide the basis tokickstart a data economy. 

as part of v3, people will be able to issue datatokens that grant access to their data in exchange for ocean and othercrypto-currencies. these data tokens are very powerful, because it allows anypiece of data, intellectual property or content stream to be monetized directlyby the provider, bypassing the large central internet platforms.

ocean v3將提供啟動資料經濟的基礎。作為v3的一部分，使用者將能夠發行授予訪問其資料許可權的資料代幣，以換取ocean和其他加密貨幣。這些資料代幣非常強大，因為它允許供應商繞過大型中心化網際網路平臺直接從任何資料，智慧財產權或內容流中獲利。

on top of v3 data tokens, the tools of#defi, decentralized finance, can be used to turn the data assets intocollateral, securities and loans. this opens up the possibility of the dataeconomy.

在v3資料代幣之上，可以使用defi工具（去中心化金融）將資料資產轉換為抵押品，證券和貸款。這為資料經濟開闢了更多的可能性。

q3：

主持人：在最近釋出的medium文章中，你們寫到了對代幣經濟的一些思考，把區塊鏈專案根據是否有代幣以及是否依賴代幣分為了四類，可否講講現有的ocean代幣治理機制是什麼樣的，在未來又將屬於哪一類？

in the recently published medium article,you have written about some thoughts on token economy. according to whetherproducts use tokens and whether they rely on tokens, blockchain projects can bedivided into four categories. can you tell us what the governance mechanism ofocean token is at present and what category it will belong to in the future?

bruce pon：

given ourlong history in blockchain, we observed the initial wave of token projects in2016/2017. throughout, we asked how a token can help to improve adoption of thetechnology or governance of the protocol. it was only when we had a clearanswer, did we initiate ocean protocol.

因為我們在區塊鏈領域的悠久歷史，所以我們親歷了2016/2017年代幣專案的最初浪潮。在整個過程中，我們思考著令牌如何幫助改善技術或協議的管理。當我們有一個明確的答案時，我們才開始啟動海洋協議。

theocean token has utility value for staking, 

activating ocean smart contracts,used in the network reward and for governance of the protocol. over time, wewill activate each capability, in parallel with increasing adoption andfunctionality of the network.

ocean代幣在整個體系中具有抵押，啟用ocean智慧合約，用於網路獎勵和協議管理的實用價值。隨著時間的推移，我們將啟用更多功能，同時增加網路的採用率和功能性。

governance is an important topic forblockchain projects. ideally, the project is decentralized and managed fully bythe global community. in reality, a project needs to go through stages ofdecentralization before a protocol can be truly community owned.

治理是區塊鏈專案永恆的主題。理想情況下，專案應該由整個社會完全分散和管理。實際上，在協議可以真正歸社羣所有之前，專案需要經歷去中心化的階段。

q4：

主持人：在v3的計劃中我們看到， ocean即將釋出staking機制和代幣激勵機制，請問現在有詳盡的方案了嗎？這是否意味著未來代幣的價值將有更大地提升？

in the v3 plan, we see that ocean is aboutto release the staking mechanism and token incentive mechanism. do you have adetailed plan now? does it mean that there will be greater value for tokens inthe future?

bruce pon：

for v3 ourobjective is clear, to make ocean protocol more accessible for people to adopt.v3 meets the needs of everyone, whether it is developers that are comfortableand familiar with ethereum, #defi enthusiasts that want to get yield from theirtoken holdings or enterprises that want to share data.

對於v3，我們的目標一直很清晰，那就是使海洋協議更容易被人們使用。並且使v3滿足所有人的需求：無論是對以太坊熟悉的開發人員，還是想從代幣持有中獲得收益的defi發燒友，亦或者是想要共享資料的企業。

v3 provides the technical basis for allthese groups to participate in ocean protocol, and create value that matters tothem. when the community thrives, we anticipate that the ocean token will alsothrive. we will do everything we can to ensure that the global ocean community isnurtured and grows.

v3為這些參與海洋協議的團隊提供技術支援併為他們創造更重要的價值。當ocean社羣蓬勃發展時，我們的ocean代幣也會蓬勃發展。並且我們將盡一切努力以確保全球ocean社羣的成長。

q5：

主持人：最近defi概念非常受到市場的追捧，大家都想知道ocean是否會和一些defi相關的專案進行合作？

recently, the concept of defi is verypopular in the market. we all want to know whether ocean protocol willcooperate with some defi projects?

bruce pon：

oceanprotocol is highly compatible with #defi. it uses all the tools of #defi fordata, to allow data to become a new asset class. we’re excited for this becauseuntil now, only the largest internet platforms could use and sell their data,mostly the private data of their own customers. with ocean protocol, we combinethe advantages of #defi to allow anyone to monetize their data - governments,companies and individuals.

海洋協議與defi高度相容。它能使用defi的所有工具處理資料，以使資料成為新的資產類別。所以我們為此感到興奮，因為直到現在，只有最大的網際網路平臺能使用和出售其資料，其中大部分是其自己客戶的私人資料。藉助oceanprotocol，我們可以結合了defi的優勢，使任何人（政府，公司和個人）都可以透過其資料代幣獲利。

q6：

主持人：資料交換協議和去中心化儲存密不可分，同樣，filecoin也是近期的熱點之一。根據ocean protocol的路線圖，我們知道2019年，在v1中，ocean就已經和ipfs進行了整合。隨著filecoin即將上線，這將會給ocean帶來怎樣的契機呢？

data exchange protocol and decentralizedstorage are inseparable. similarly, filecoin is one of the hot spots in thenear future. according to the roadmap of ocean protocol, we know that ocean hasbeen integrated with ipfs in v1 in 2019. with filecoin coming online soon, whatopportunities will this bring to ocean?

bruce pon：

for the dataeconomy, we need four building blocks - data, ai algorithms, storage andcomputing resources. for storage, filecoin is a recognized leader. we have beenfriends with the project since 2014 and have shared many ideas with juan benet,the founder. so it’s natural that ocean will have an integration with filecoinas soon as filecoin is launched. we are excited about this because it givesdevelopers more flexibility to have control over their applications and peopleto have control over their data, independent of the large internet platforms.

對於資料經濟，我們需要四個構建塊-資料，人工智慧演算法，儲存和計算資源。對於儲存方面，filecoin是公認的領導者。自2014年以來，我們一直是跟filecoin有著非常良好的關係，並且也與其創始人juan benet分享了許多想法。因此，一旦filecoin啟動，ocean將與filecoin整合。我們對與filecoin整合感到非常開心，因為它為我們的開發人員提供了更多靈活性來控制其應用程式，使人們可以獨立於大型中心化網際網路平臺來控制其資料。

q7：

主持人：無需許可化是ocean重要的目標之一，在變得更加開放和包容的同時，可能也會帶來一定的風險，無論是產品技術層面，還是政治層面，怎麼去面對這些問題？過去ocean和很多世界知名企業進行了合作，比如戴姆勒，那隨著ocean轉向無需許可化，這些與大型企業的合作將持續還是減少？

permissionless is one of ocean's importantgoals. while becoming more open and inclusive, it may also bring certain risks.how can we face these problems, whether in terms of product technology orpolitics? in the past, ocean has cooperated with many well-known enterprises inthe world, such as daimler. will the cooperation between these largeenterprises continue or decrease as ocean turns to permissionless?

bruce pon：

oceanprotocol needs to be permissionless and owned by the global community. at theheart, the core value should be openness to everyone so that opportunity can bespread. in reality, the journey may hit barriers and politics may happen. thecore team at ocean intends to support the community as it grows and matures,meeting the needs of developers, crypto-enthusiasts and enterprises.

海洋協議必須是無需許可的，並由全球社會共同所有。從本質上來講，我們的核心價值應該是對所有人開放，以便機會得以得到傳播。實際上，這一過程可能會遇到很大的障礙，並且會有政治阻礙。ocean的核心團隊打算隨著社羣的成長和成熟為其提供支援，以滿足開發人員，加密愛好者和企業的需求。

for enterprises, they will be able todeploy private ocean networks that they have more control over, likeenterprises do with ethereum now.

對於企業，他們可以部署ocean私鏈網路以便於有更好的控制權，就像這些企業在以太坊上做的那樣。

for developers and the broader community,they will have a voice in the direction of the technology and where grants aregiven.

we hope that with the combination of thecore team, the community and enterprise, we can balance the needs of everyonefairly.

對於開發人員和更大的社羣，他們可以對技術的方向及撥款方向發表自己的意見。我們希望可以透過核心團隊，社羣和企業的結合，可以公平地平衡每個人的需求。

q8：

主持人：我們看到一篇文章寫到，ocean protocol將在polkadot上搭建橋樑，以更好地實現資料交換。可以詳細地為我們講講嗎？跨鏈基礎設施的建設將給ocean protocol的未來發展帶來哪些好處？

we saw an article that ocean protocol willbuild a bridge on polkadot to better realize data exchange. can you tell usmore about it? what benefits will the construction of cross-chaininfrastructure bring to the future development of ocean protocol?

bruce pon：

we haveexplored working with polkadot on multiple levels, with frequent contact totheir engineering teams. since ocean protocol is agnostic to the l1 layer, itcan be deployed on polkadot in the future. in the meantime, we have already usedparity secret store as part of the ocean protocol and have other ideas on howto integrate further.

我們已經探索了與polkadot的多層次合作，並經常與他們的工程團隊聯絡。由於ocean protocol與l1層無關，所以將來可我們可以在polkadot上部署它。同時，我們已經將parity secret store用作ocean protocol的一部分，並對如何進一步整合有更多的想法。

q9：

主持人：最後一個問題，也是大家很關心的一個問題，在v3釋出後，ocean protocol還有哪些計劃？在市場層面，是否會繼續上線更多大型交易所，尤其是合規交易所，讓全世界的數字貨幣投資者能夠更便利地參與ocean的建設？

last but not least, what are the plans ofocean protocol after the release of v3? at the market level, will more largeexchanges, especially compliant ones，will continue tolaunch? we hope that digital currency investors all over the world couldparticipate in the construction of ocean protocol more conveniently.

bruce pon：

we have v4and v5 on our roadmap. these next phases allow for more decentralization andcommunity voice to decide where grants are given. from there, we will focus onadoption and support developers to build dapps. there are already several greatideas that are being worked on that we will be excited to share with thecommunity when they are ready.

我們的路線圖上有v4和v5。接下來的這些階段我們將開放更多的權力及社羣的聲音來決定在何處提供贈款。從那裡開始，我們將專注於採用並支援開發人員構建dapp。我們已經有好幾個好主意正在醞釀之中，當準備就緒時，我們會非常高興與社羣分享。

自由問答環節的整理：

問題一來自@kt ：對於使用者而言，個人資料是最私密和隱私的，ocean是如何保障使用者的資料安全？

for users, personal data is the mostprivate. how does ocean protect users' data security?

bruce pon：

data privacy is the most important criteriafor people to feel safe to share data. ocean protocol allows people to controlhow their data is shared and gives them the ability to define the conditionswhere others can access their data. it is a universal access control layer fordata.

資料隱私是人們安全分享資料的最重要標準。海洋協議允許人們控制資料的共享方式，並使他們能夠定義其他人可以訪問其資料的條件。它是一個通用的資料訪問控制層。

問題二來自@banana：如果咱們使用者想參與到ocean的生態中來，除了二級市場買幣，還有其他優惠一些的方式和途徑嗎？

if our users want to participate in ocean'secology, in addition to the secondary market to buy money, are there any otherways and means to participate?

bruce pon：

there are three ways that the community canparticipate. 

1) if you are a developer, the ocean technology is available foranyone to use and build dapps on. we would love to see some chinese developersto build apps on ocean 

2) if you are part of a company that has data and wantsto share data - ocean technology could be right for you. we have integrationpartners that can help you explore options 

3) stake tokens - if you hold ocean,you are part of the #defi ecosystem - you can stake tokens for yield, earninterest and already collateralize your tokens.

社羣可以透過三種方式參與。

1） 如果您是一名開發人員，海洋協議可供任何人使用和構建dapp。我們希望看到一些中國開發者在海洋上開發應用程式

2） 如果你是一家擁有資料並希望共享資料的公司的一員，那麼海洋技術可能正適合你。我們有整合合作夥伴，可以幫助您探索各種選擇

3） stake代幣-如果你持有ocean，你就是#defi生態系統的一部分-你可以用代幣來獲得收益，賺取利息，並且已經為你的代幣做抵押。

問題三來自@三生花下育菩提：大家都知道海洋協議和賓士母公司最近已經建立了合作關係。你認為這些合作會給海洋協議帶來什麼進展？海洋協議在哪些方面給它帶來了優勢？

hello,everyone knows that the ocean protocol and mercedes benz parent company haveestablished cooperation recently. what progress do you think these cooperationwill bring to the ocean protocol? and in what ways does an ocean protocol giveit an advantage?

bruce pon：

with mercedes-benz, we wish to showcase theocean protocol technology with a real-world use case that adds value. we arecontinuing work with them and are working closely on the next phase already.mercedes benz likes ocean technology because it is open-source, globallyscalable and gives them full control. if they want to build more tools andsoftware on top of ocean, they do not need to rely on the core ocean team.

對於梅賽德斯-賓士，我們希望透過一個增加價值的真實世界用例來展示海洋協議的技術。我們正在繼續與他們合作，並且已經在下一階段密切合作。梅賽德斯-賓士喜歡海洋協議，因為它是開源的，全球可擴充套件的，並給予他們完全的控制。如果他們想在ocean平臺上開發更多的工具和軟體，他們不需要依賴海洋協議的核心團隊。

問題四來自@餘溫：聽說，海洋公司正在建立世界上第一個物流資料市場嗎？資料市場將如何迎合消費者或者投資者？我可以出售，購買ocean代幣來換取我的個人資料嗎？比如我的運動、醫療之類？

it is said that the ocean protocol is establishingthe world's first logistics data market? how will the data market cater toconsumers or investors? can i buy ocean tokens in exchange for my personaldata? for example, my sports, medical and so on?

bruce pon：

ocean protocol is a protocol that allows datato be shared, safely and privately. it is like a new city focused on the dataeconomy where the roads, streets and utilities are all laid out. now businessescan come to build data sharing applications - some will trade personal data,others will focus on providing ai algorithms. there will be #defi specialiststhat take the data assets and turn them into loans and collateral. 

some peoplemight even offer their data in an ido - initial data offering. the role of thecore team is to ensure that the technology gets improved, that the ecosystem isnurtured and that there is governance on the resources of the ocean community.we hope that the community values remain strong and develop in the rightdirection so that everyone feels that they can contribute.

海洋協議是一個協議，允許資料共享，安全和私人。它就像一個專注於資料經濟的新城市，道路、街道和公用事業都在這裡佈局。現在，企業可以開始構建資料共享應用程式——一些企業將交易個人資料，其他企業將專注於提供人工智慧演算法。將有defi專家將資料資產轉化為貸款和抵押品。有些人甚至可以在ido——initial data offering中提供他們的資料。核心小組的作用是確保技術得到改進，生態系統得到培育，並對海洋協議社羣的資源進行管理。我們希望社羣的價值觀保持強大，朝著正確的方向發展，讓每個人都覺得自己可以做出貢獻。

問題五來自中文社羣1群的@存在：他想問staking機制的具體細則是怎麼樣的，這對ocean代幣的價格至關重要

what are the details of the stakingmechanism, which is crucial to the price of ocean tokens

bruce pon：

there are three ways to stake in ocean.

1) people can recommend and promote datasets which they think the community will use. for this, they will stake oceanand have the chance to earn a share of the revenue.

2) people can stake to launch a datamarketplace storefront - to ensure the quality of the data marketplace forusers

3) people can use their ocean to stake on#defi protocols like uniswap, balancer, kyber and others. we see more stakingoptions that will come in the future.

有三種方法可以在海洋中進行stake。

1） 人們可以推薦和推廣他們認為社羣將使用的資料集。為此，他們將staking ocean代幣，並有機會從中獲得利潤。

2）人們可以投資建立一個資料市場店面，以確保為使用者提供資料市場的質量

3）人們可以利用他們的ocean在uniswap、balancer、kyber等協議上進行stake。我們看到未來會有更多的staking選擇。

由於時間的關係，本次ama到此告一段落，感謝bruce的分享和解答，也感謝ocean社羣小夥伴的熱情參與，歡迎大家訂閱“海洋協議”公眾號，會有更多精彩內容和ocean最新資訊更新，不容錯過~~

專案更多資訊

官網：https://oceanprotocol.com/

twitter：https://twitter.com/oceanprotocol

medium：https://blog.oceanprotocol.com/

github：https://github.com/oceanprotocol

電報：https://t.me/oceanprotocol_community

白皮書連結：

https://oceanprotocol.com/protocol/#papers

youtube：

https://www.youtube.com/channel/uch8txwmwwae9tzo0ytbhb3a